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Question New router, recommendations? - 07-31-2017, 13:36 | posts: 317 | Location: Norway

I am looking for a new router (switch?)

I now use a zyxel P8702N that i got from my fiber isp. This is a awful router that maximise the cpu and ram just using my 250mb connection to the max. I even don't use the wifi transmitter. That i have a asus rt-ac66u in ac mode for.

Most of my network is cabled (pc, media server, tv, chromecast/v3, printer etc). Wifi i only use for phones, seldom used laptop and a tablet.

The asus i tried to use, but when i hit over 120mbps in download and use the lan at the same time, the cpu maxes out to 100% and everything grinds to a halt. It is just too old for high speed use, but still very usable as a hub/wifi access point. (i have the latest merlin wrt firmware on it)

So i have been looking for a quad core router to be sure i never run into the cpu bottleneck when the fiber get upgraded in the future.
But they are so darn expensive and none is available here.
So maybe just a modern dual core that can use custom firmware is ok?

I have looked at the Linksys WRT3200ACM (dual core 1.8ghz)
Anyone have this and can recommend it? Very good priced right now
https://www.linksys.com/us/p/P-WRT3200ACM/

The higher end asus routers are much higher priced.
Or anyone recommend a switch instead? The wifi i can do with the ac66u just fine. (must have dhcp server)
Any suggestions are appreciated (must be able to use custom rom's like dd-wrt,tomato or merlin or similar)
I also use vpn on my server only. If any routers can use open vpn (vpn unlimited, but they use open vpn standard) on one ip/port only, i will be willing to pay more. Use software based vpn now.

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Default 07-31-2017, 14:12 | posts: 717 | Location: Norway

Recently switched over to a Ubiquiti Edgerouter X. Small little powerful router for 50$ or so. WAN-TO-LAN throuhput 930Mb/s after activating hardware offload. Lot's of features. No WiFi tho so need your own acesspoint for that.

Use it myself on a 500/500Mb/s fiber connection without any issues.
   
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Default 07-31-2017, 14:50 | posts: 317 | Location: Norway

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Recently switched over to a Ubiquiti Edgerouter X. Small little powerful router for 50$ or so. WAN-TO-LAN throuhput 930Mb/s after activating hardware offload. Lot's of features. No WiFi tho so need your own acesspoint for that.

Use it myself on a 500/500Mb/s fiber connection without any issues.
So many different versions:
https://prisguiden.no/sok?q=Ubiquiti%20Edgerouter%20X

den på dustin?

How is cpu load on that when maximizing download , f.ex steam download?
Is it a dual core? Is the dhcp server good? I do not know the software on those, is it easy to setup and can you use a open vpn client?

Also see someone having latency issues with latest firmware, is this fixed?
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMA...1795197/page/2

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Default 07-31-2017, 15:19 | posts: 717 | Location: Norway

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So many different versions:
https://prisguiden.no/sok?q=Ubiquiti%20Edgerouter%20X

den på dustin?

How is cpu load on that when maximizing download , f.ex steam download?
Is it a dual core? Is the dhcp server good? I do not know the software on those, is it easy to setup and can you use a open vpn client?

Also see someone having latency issues with latest firmware, is this fixed?
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMA...1795197/page/2
This is the cheapest one in Norway https://prisguiden.no/produkt/ODMxXjYxNDMy

I have not checked the CPU load on it when maxing my connection, but I can check and report back when I get home.

Have not noticed any latency issues with it. Been using it for 2-3 weeks now, but thanks for the information, I will look into that thread when i get back home.

Hardware specs:

Processor
Dual-Core 880 MHz, MIPS1004Kc

System
Memory 256 MB DDR3 RAM

Code Storage
256 MB NAND

Some of the features:

Interface/Encapsulation Ethernet
802.1q VLAN
PPPoE
GRE
IP in IP
Bridging
Bonding (802.3ad)

Addressing
Static IPv4/IPv6 Addressing
DHCP/DHCPv6

Routing
Static Routes
OSPF/OSPFv3
RIP/RIPng
BGP (with IPv6 Support)
IGMP Proxy

Security
ACL-Based Firewall
Zone-Based Firewall
NAT

VPN
IPSec Site-to-Site and Remote Access
OpenVPN Site-to-Site and Remote Access
PPTP Remote Access
L2TP Remote Access
PPTP Client

Services
DHCP/DHCPv6 Server
DHCP/DHCPv6 Relay
Dynamic DNS
DNS Forwarding
VRRP
RADIUS Client
Web Caching
PPPoE Server

QoS
FIFO
Stochastic Fairness Queueing
Random Early Detection
Token Bucket Filter
Deficit Round Robin
Hierarchical Token Bucket
Ingress Policing

Management
Web UI
CLI (SSH, Telnet)
SNMP
NetFlow
LLDP
NTP
UBNT Discovery Protocol
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Default 07-31-2017, 15:20 | posts: 9,604 | Location: USA

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So many different versions:
https://prisguiden.no/sok?q=Ubiquiti%20Edgerouter%20X

den på dustin?

How is cpu load on that when maximizing download , f.ex steam download?
Is it a dual core? Is the dhcp server good? I do not know the software on those, is it easy to setup and can you use a open vpn client?

Also see someone having latency issues with latest firmware, is this fixed?
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMA...1795197/page/2
https://prisguiden.no/produkt/ODMxXjYxNDMy

That one.

These aren't complicated in setting up.

It's a dual core MIPS CPU, regardless it does not matter with hardware offloading.

These will be much faster in networking tasks compared to standard routers.

Any specific issues are usually solved quickly, firmware is 1.9.7 now.
   
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Default 07-31-2017, 15:24 | posts: 717 | Location: Norway

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https://prisguiden.no/produkt/ODMxXjYxNDMy

That one.

These aren't complicated in setting up.

It's a dual core MIPS CPU, regardless it does not matter with hardware offloading.

These will be much faster in networking tasks compared to standard routers.

Any specific issues are usually solved quickly, firmware is 1.9.7 now.
Yeah it's much faster and after using this one for a little while, i'm never going back to a regular router.

Yeah its not complicated. It comes with a Wizard for novice user or you can go all balls out and configure it from scratch
   
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Default 07-31-2017, 16:20 | posts: 317 | Location: Norway

Thank you. Will order the one from dustin since it is in stock, looks like the same one.
https://www.dustinhome.no/product/50...m=pricecompare

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Default 07-31-2017, 19:54 | posts: 717 | Location: Norway

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Thank you. Will order the one from dustin since it is in stock, looks like the same one.
https://www.dustinhome.no/product/50...m=pricecompare
Cool, just tested too see CPU usage while downloading.

@ 60 MB/s the CPU usage was between 1% with a few jumps up to 8% and back down again. Suspect this is to do with my other stuff going on on the network. RAM usage 22%, but was that amount before i started the download.
   
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Cool 08-04-2017, 10:54 | posts: 317 | Location: Norway

Finally got it up and running. Great little box!!

The default firmware had a awful setup wizard that, but after upgrading to the latest firmware and resetting/running wizard again, the thing worked beautifully.
Until i did see that upload speed was worse than before (for some reason isp never capped upload, so got 1gb up
But after enabling hw offload (after troubleshooting for a long while), i now get full speed up.

Here is how you enable it if anyone wonders.
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/artic...ding-Explained

Remember to use the *configure* command first, then *commit* when done.

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Default 08-04-2017, 11:58 | posts: 717 | Location: Norway

Glad you liked it

Yeah, need to enable HW Offload or else you are capped at 420Mbps WAN-2-LAN / LAN-2-LAN Throughput
   
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Default 08-11-2017, 23:09 | posts: 317 | Location: Norway

Just have to give some feedback on this little wonderbox.
I can now maximize download & lan, never reached more than 11% cpu use and 30% ram usage whatever i throw at the network. This include streaming 4k movies from my plex server while downloading from steam at full speed

So anyone who is looking at upgrading their all in one routers, look no further.
the https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/ for 49$, nothing else in that price range is coming close. Use your old all in one as a wifi/hub access point.
   
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