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Default 08-09-2017, 14:26 | posts: 706

Yep, stock 1080 scores are around 7400 ...
   
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Default 08-09-2017, 14:35 | posts: 6,639 | Location: Finland

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So still around 1080 performance my 1080ti is getting 10K graphics in timespy.
With over 120mhz in the coreclock over the 1630mhz one and only so little increase. There is certainly a bottleneck somewhere and my guess is memory as it was bottlenecking Fury X already.
   
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Default 08-09-2017, 16:40 | posts: 9,610 | Location: USA

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With over 120mhz in the coreclock over the 1630mhz one and only so little increase. There is certainly a bottleneck somewhere and my guess is memory as it was bottlenecking Fury X already.
This seems appropriate, lol

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Default 08-09-2017, 20:26 | posts: 37 | Location: afk

This look very bad unless it's the Vega 56 :s
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 00:22 | posts: 455

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Then you need to re-read what you quoted. It clearly said, "GV100 will never be a GTX product." The second half of the quote was in reference to the GV104.
I never claimed gv100 would be, and "Also Volta is not a huge departure from Pascal" applies to both the GV100 and the GV104 geforce or not.

My Only point is that GV100 took such a large chunk of nvidia's R&D budget, and manpower, that it may effect the development cycle of other gpus, like the upcoming GV104,

"I think you underestimate the impact of the GV100 on nvidia's total R&D" is what I should have clarified.



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With over 120mhz in the coreclock over the 1630mhz one and only so little increase. There is certainly a bottleneck somewhere and my guess is memory as it was bottlenecking Fury X already.
performance appears to scale mostly linearly with an Hbm overclock , which For the most part confirms that.

16% hbm clock increase results in a 6% performance increase, however performance scaling is mostly linear, doesn't hit diminishing returns even at 1100mhz in most of the applications this guy tested.

https://youtu.be/9v24mmNCPGg?t=2m42s

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Default 08-10-2017, 06:19 | posts: 420 | Location: Auckland

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This look very bad unless it's the Vega 56 :s
Highly unlikely as I have read that Vega 56 is launching a month after Vega 64. I would say this is one of the 3 variants of Vega 64. Just not sure which one.
   
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Highly unlikely as I have read that Vega 56 is launching a month after Vega 64. I would say this is one of the 3 variants of Vega 64. Just not sure which one.
Well 945 memory is dead give away since Vega 56 has lower frequency.

@user1

I don't really understand what is going with AMD on that part even Fury X was bandwidth starved. And they went with quite a bit less bandwidth this time.

In reality Vega stock is pushing something like 280GB/s anyway.
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 12:10 | posts: 420 | Location: Auckland

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Well 945 memory is dead give away since Vega 56 has lower frequency.

@user1

I don't really understand what is going with AMD on that part even Fury X was bandwidth starved. And they went with quite a bit less bandwidth this time.

In reality Vega stock is pushing something like 280GB/s anyway.
Exactly, I initially was hoping that this was Vega 56 performance and not Vega 64. But like you said Vega 64 has memory clock of 945 vs Vega 56 of 800. All I can hope, is it's not the watercooled variant. Not good at all.
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 12:47 | posts: 528

Theres rumours over here that the AMD "Black" reference cards are going to be sold at the same price as the "Limited Edition" cards, ie both at $599 for the aircooled models.
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 16:05 | posts: 774 | Location: Panama City Beach, FL, USA

AMD Officially Releases Vega Shader ISA Documentation

http://developer.amd.com/wordpress/m...28July2017.pdf
   
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Talking 08-10-2017, 17:04 | posts: 3,131 | Location: HolyWater Village

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AMD Officially Releases Vega Shader ISA Documentation

http://developer.amd.com/wordpress/m...28July2017.pdf
THX

New packed 16-bit math instructions.
V_PK_MAD_I16 V_PK_MUL_LO_U16 V_PK_ADD_I16 V_PK_SUB_I16
V_PK_LSHLREV_B16 V_PK_LSHRREV_B16 V_PK_ASHRREV_I16 V_PK_MAX_I16
V_PK_MIN_I16 V_PK_MAD_U16 V_PK_ADD_U16 V_PK_SUB_U16
V_PK_MAX_U16 V_PK_MIN_U16 V_PK_FMA_F16 V_PK_ADD_F16
V_PK_MUL_F16 V_PK_MIN_F16 V_PK_MAX_F16 V_MAD_MIX_F32
V_MAD_MIXLO_F16 V_MAD_MIXHI_F16 S_PACK_{LL,LH,HH}_B16_B32
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 19:29 | posts: 420 | Location: Auckland

Vega 64 competes very well with an overclocked GTX1080 in 3DMark on the latest final release drivers


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Default 08-10-2017, 20:10 | posts: 4,775 | Location: Wolverhampton, UK

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Vega 64 competes very well with an overclocked GTX1080 in 3DMark on the latest final release drivers

https://***************/71771/final-...rk-performance
So, the performance of Vega FE infact WAS an indication of how the RX series would perform. In 3dmark anyway.

Talking about Vega FE, it's had a Ł300 price drop!?!

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-r...gx-02e-am.html

Wow. I imagine the market didn't respond positively to it? Anyone got any info?

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Vega 64 competes very well with an overclocked GTX1080 in 3DMark on the latest final release drivers

https://***************/71771/final-...rk-performance
Your link has been censored - is this what you were trying to post? https://vid eoca rdz.com/71771/final-radeon-rx-vega-64-3dmark-performance/ (copy and paste and remove the spaces).
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 20:15 | posts: 420 | Location: Auckland

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Your link has been censored - is this what you were trying to post? https://vid eoca rdz.com/71771/final-radeon-rx-vega-64-3dmark-performance/ (copy and paste and remove the spaces).
Yeah sorry. I'm using my mobile phone currently. Will change it when I get to my desktop.
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 20:43 | posts: 774 | Location: Panama City Beach, FL, USA

@Onna and others can y'all with more knowledge then me break down and explain the Vega Shader ISA documentation?
   
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Lightbulb 08-11-2017, 04:31 | posts: 3,131 | Location: HolyWater Village

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@Onna and others can y'all with more knowledge then me break down and explain the Vega Shader ISA documentation?
In short?

New DX12 & Vulcan 64 Instructions

Many H/W changes -> indeed new & shiny (That's why it needs new Drivers, and they aren't mature yet ET 3-6 months)

Wait for Vega reviews on Guru or Annand
or read here:
-> AMD Vega Microarchitecture Technical Overview
   
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Default 08-11-2017, 14:29 | posts: 420 | Location: CZ

AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 and Vega 56 reviews coming this monday
“As of today, AMD noted that RX Vega 56 cards have been shipped to reviewers, along with a request that reviewers specifically “prioritize coverage” of RX Vega 56 over RX Vega 64 under time-constrained conditions.”


I don't remember ATI/AMD being that desperate.
   
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Lightbulb 08-12-2017, 05:04 | posts: 3,131 | Location: HolyWater Village

AMD Navi 7nm GPU’s to have Advanced AI Acceleration Hardware !

AMD’s future generation of graphics cards are in the foreseeable future with a name already that is basically all we know about the GPU’s themselves until now… ‘Navi’ will also be featuring AI Acceleration Hardware.

Navi will be focusing on the power efficiency of the GPU and it is said to be believed that Navi will be the first microarchitecture GPU designed and conceived under Radeon Technologies Group Raja Koduri.

Fudzilla has released some information regarding the future of what Navi will be featuring. Something that is called ‘AI acceleration circuitry’ will be on board this new GPU but this is quite vague as there is no way to know what that actually means. This could mean anything from on-chip fabric, new ISA capabilities or perhaps even a new a separate AI acceleration engine.

Navi will be the first graphics card architecture built on GlobalFoundaries 7nm FinFET process. It is expected at the current time of writing this that Navi should drop between 2018/2019 but that is a long time away so who knows the delays AMD could face between then and now.
   
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Sounds intriguing OnnA
   
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Lightbulb 08-12-2017, 05:20 | posts: 3,131 | Location: HolyWater Village

AMD's Vega NDA dates, which are:

# Unboxing embargo lift on Saturday, August 12, 11AM EDT: AMD permits unboxing photos or videos only.
# Performance embargo lift for Vega 56 on August 14, 9AM EDT.
# RX Vega 64 already in hands of some reviewers, with unboxing embargo lift on Saturday, August 12, 11AM EDT.
# RX Vega 64 performance embargo lift on August 14, 9AM EDT.
# Update: Vega 56 launches on 8/28.

->
C1: Vega 56 Is the more attractive gpu. If the dies aren't rubbish, you could get great overclocks with an AIB card, so you get most of a 1080's performance for 1070 money.
Can't wait for the reviews!

C2: I think that might be true. I want to get vega 64 but i'm curious about the reviews. Then i will be able to decide which card has better perf/$.
If 56 turns out to be a great Overclocker maybe that's the way to go especially if it matches 1080's performance. Since some benchmarks showed that it might be better than 1070 but a noticeable margin straight from the box. <-

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At least it's not too long to wait now. Hopefully AMD has managed to egg or a bit more performance from Vega. I would like to update my 480 for one or the other.
   
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4K Gaming on 1xRadeon 295^X^2 !!




Reviewers always shows overclocked GPU and CPU in their benchmarks, i would love to see some memory tuning as well. I'm pretty sure that thee vram latency mod helps an r9 295x2 a lot in 4k.
   
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Default 08-12-2017, 10:34 | posts: 17,790 | Location: Glasgow

VEGA 56 3Dmark Benchmark

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...ark_benchmark/

Looks to be around 1070 performance for 1070 money.

Not particularly exciting, but if you wanted something from AMD and not Nvidia or have a Freesync monitor then decent news.

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VEGA 56 3Dmark Benchmark

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...ark_benchmark/

Looks to be around 1070 performance for 1070 money.

Not particularly exciting, but if you wanted something from AMD and not Nvidia or have a Freesync monitor then decent news.
So, (i have i mind that is not offical test yet)
difference with my Fiji:
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